If you’ve ever struggled with mysterious ailments, especially if you or your doctor blamed it on aging, this episode is for you. Dr. Susa Lovelle, a former plastic surgeon turned lifestyle/functional medicine doctor in her 60s, teaches us what functional medicine is. She talks about nutrition, listening to your body, inflammation, preventing disease, and how all of this is especially important as we get older. In this episode, we cover: How stress causes inflammation and disease. How to start taking better care of your health. The validity of taking vitamins. Why we are our own best advocates, our own best physicians, and how our bodies know exactly what they need. How ageism plays a role in medicine and business grants. A full transcription is available on www.iamthisage.com
If you’ve ever struggled with mysterious ailments, especially if you or your doctor blamed it on aging, this episode is for you. Dr. Susa Lovelle, a former plastic surgeon turned lifestyle/functional medicine doctor in her 60s, teaches us what functional medicine is. She talks about nutrition, listening to your body, inflammation, preventing disease, and how all of this is especially important as we get older.
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A full transcription is available on www.iamthisage.com
As you're growing older, are you noticing more and more mysterious ailments popping up that no doctors seem to understand? Maybe they give you a wrong diagnosis or chalk it up to, this is what happens when you age. Well, my friends, this is exactly what happened to Dr. Susan Lavelle until she took her health into her own hands.
And she's here today to tell you how she went from sepsis to healthy. 📍 And how you can take control of your health
too. Welcome to I am this age, the podcast proving you're never too old. It's never too late. So go do that thing you're always talking about. I'm Molly Sider, your host, a certified professional life coach, speaker and storyteller, dr. Susan Lovelle, a former plastic surgeon, went back to school at 63 to become a lifestyle, or as some people might know it, a functional doctor. She 📍 runs Balanced Performance, which is a company providing all in one lifestyle health solutions for busy professionals, because she is one and she knows.
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Hi. I'm doctor Susan Lovelle. I'm sixty nine, and I am the founder and owner of Premier Wellness, which is right now in the midst of changing over to balanced performance.
Dr. Lovell worked in plastic surgery for 22 years, 16 years in Wichita, Kansas, and six years in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. Both rural and in both places, she was the only plastic surgeon within an hour in any direction. What that meant was that in addition to her traditional plastic surgery patients, she was also the one being called in at, say, three in the morning if someone had a bad cut on their face and needed a plastic surgeon.
Needless to say, she worked a lot, and she was so stressed that she eventually ended up in intensive care three times in one year, with blood clots in her legs and lungs, and the third time she became septic. But no one, including her, could figure out what was happening. At one point, they thought she had cancer, but that wasn't it.
It was a mystery until she discovered the following thing.
It was really inflammation throughout my body that was causing those clots, and the inflammation was due to, number one, the food that I was eating, which wasn't very healthy at the time, but, uh, but also just that chronic stress. And if I can say nothing else and if people don't learn anything else from this this whole conversation, it's that stress causes disease.
We hear about this all the time, of course, you know, ingrained into our brain. Stress can kill you.
Stress can cause heart attacks. Stress causes inflammation even. But can you explain
How that actually
Yeah.
yes absolutely. Well a lot of it has to do with hormones and many of us have heard of the the master hormone cortisol. Right? Um, that's that stress hormone, that fight or flight or freeze hormone. So whenever it's really from way back in the I say the days of the troglodytes, right, when we would get chased by a by a saber tooth tiger and our bodies would need to react.
And so we would get a surge of cortisol, we'd get a surge of epinephrine and norepinephrine, which would allow us to get up and run away from whatever this danger was. Back then, when the danger went away, our cortisol levels and everything went back down, we went back to normal and life went on as usual. That's not what happens today. Today we have stress that that is not almost non stop, you know twenty four seven month the month year after year and we don't ever come down from that unless we make a specific effort to de stress, to take you know to step away from that constant uh that constant you know energy. Uh and so that is that constant stress with the cortisol levels that impacts so many other things because it is a master hormone.
Don't wanna get too too too scientific, but it messes with our thyroid. It lowers our thyroid function. It messes with our sex hormones, you know, constant stress can increase testosterone in women, it can lower testosterone in men, it can do things that we just don't want it to do. Um, oh, it messes with digestion. So it's a twenty four seven, three hundred sixty degree a response of our body to this chronic stress.
Wow.
hOw did you learn that stress was the cause of your illness?
It really well, let me take a step back. So when I came out of the hospital that third time, I was so exhausted. If you could imagine, I couldn't walk my dogs anymore. I could barely walk up and down the stairs in my house. That was enough.
So all I could do at that time to change was to change how I was eating, what I was eating. And when I started with that, I started feeling better so then I started doing more movement and I say movement as opposed to exercise because a lot of us have that hear the word exercising and you're like, that kind of thing, but movement. Um, started looking at how I was sleeping and getting more sleep during the day. Um, started distressing specifically and started looking at my hormones. So those are the things, the changes that I had to make initially.
And when I saw the changes this is without any further training. When I saw the changes in my own life, I said, well, there must be a formal way to get this new information because that's not what you're taught in medical school. know you're not taught about anything like that. And so I went back to school, went to uh learn about functional medicine, which is that uh looking at the root cause of what's going on. Went back into functional medicine and it was there that I learned how important stress is and what it does to us and to our hormones.
. For Dr. Lavell. It was all self experimentation and holistically looking at her body. She was getting to the root cause of the symptoms rather than just throwing on a bandaid.
Uh, I'll say during that whole, switch from plastic surgery to lifestyle health, I had this really strange rash that no one could figure out. None of the traditional physicians could figure out, they put me on high dose steroids, which did nothing except to make me dizzy.
I would start bouncing into walls, didn't take the rash away. And so when we looked at it, I found a functional health provider actually in another state because there were none in the ERP at that time who did some testing and we found that a lot of my issues were related to gut. So stress can cause hormones, can cause gut issues, and the rashes was coming from me being sensitive having developed a sensitivity to eggs. Go figure. So something that I love, still this day I still love.
Um, so what we did was we came off of eggs for a while and rash got better and uh so it was really a matter of finding out not so much you know the traditional way of looking at a rash is oh you've got a rash go put some cream on it, make the rash go away. This was a matter of saying okay you've got a rash, what is causing that rash and then take that away, you know, or change that.
This is resonating because I this is a little bit about me.
So here's what happened. Over the summer, I developed a more intense version of a rash on my face that I've been dealing with for most of my adult life. Nothing was working and no doctors could figure out what it was from. So I asked my primary doctor for a functional or lifestyle doctor.
And even though my primary doctor seems to align with my preference for a holistic approach to health. She gave me this whole speech about how functional medicine isn't proven and you need to be careful about what and who you listen to, all of which I agree, and a sentiment I apply to all of my doctors, not just the holistic ones.
But this speech, knowing my primary doctor fairly well by now, seemed like an obligatory warning mandated by the higher ups more concerned with my money and less with my actual health. And right after she gave me this speech, she quickly and quietly inserted, but I've heard great things about this office, and here's their name and number, with this slight twinkle in her eye. I
called that office, but my insurance wouldn't cover it, and so I never went, and so I still have this rash I'm dealing with. All this to wonder, why is there so little information about nutrition, inflammation, vitamins, and the like?
Oh, wonderful. So I I look at, uh, one of the big ones is gut impermeability, so leaky gut. And that used to be, like, so far out there, people would say, oh, you must be crazy if you believe in leaky gut. Well now the science has shown that that is an actuality, that when things change the gut junctions get wider and things get through that shouldn't get through. So the proof of some of the things may be a little bit behind the observation, But for the majority of issues that are brought up with integrated medicine or functional medicine or lifestyle medicine, whatever you want to call it, most of them really are proven at this point.
You know we're having more and more proof.
So then why isn't it mainstream, and why aren't you taught it in medical school?
that's a good one. I love that question. That is actually one of the reason that it is and is one of the reasons that I didn't go into internal medicine in the first place.
Is if you go to medical school, you actually rotate through a lot of the different specialties. You go through internal medicine, pediatrics, surgery. Of course, I picked surgery because that was the best. But but, um, the reason that I chose back then not go into internal medicine or family practice was because it was more people would come in each month. They would have whatever they had going on, whether it was diabetes or high blood pressure, whatever it was, they would get their pill same way you got your cream.
They would go away, and they would come back the same month the next month, same thing going on. So all that was changing was maybe we'll change your medicine but we're not looking at what you're eating, we're not looking at what you're doing, we're not looking at your lifestyle, And I said I can't do that. We're not taught that. We have two weeks of nutrition in medical school. Or why?
Two weeks. Two weeks of that's it. And nutrition is such a huge part of what makes us healthy. Right? But what are they getting every week or every month that they come in?
They're getting medication. And who runs a lot of you know medicine unfortunately. We call it big pharma but yeah that's
Yeah.
it's all economic. That's billions of dollars every year.
More about me. I was raised to question doctors, medicine, and processes. I was taught to advocate for my own health and never take a medicine without understanding its purpose, benefits, and side effects. I was raised to eat real food, whole grains, and vitamins from a young age, and I'm not talking about Flintstone vitamins here, which are mostly just sugar.
I feel lucky that I was raised this way and that my parents had the means to afford real food and vitamins. Most people I know do not have that experience. Because of my upbringing, I am much more likely to go the holistic route in terms of health. I start with diet, as Dr. Lavelle suggested, and I play around with things like essential oils when I'm sick or my allergies act up. I
love a good acupuncture session, I take vitamins when I remember, and meditation has changed my sleep. And yet I encounter people who don't believe in these ideas simply because it wasn't recommended by their doctor.
I had a friend a few years ago who was, in school to become a physician's assistant, and I was often having to, like, defend eating for nutrition and taking vitamins, because he was like, well, if it's not taught in a textbook or if the medicine isn't made in the lab, then it's not valid. And I'm like, what? But this stuff hasn't been around for, like, since, like, the beginning of life.
Oh, exactly. Exactly.
Yeah.
Tell what are your I'm digressing a little bit, but what are your thoughts on vitamins and, like, the holistic approaches approaches to illness.
Exactly. Well, I say the the best textbook is your own body, period. You know, however your body responds to something, that is the best textbook. I don't care if it's written or not. Because think about it, things that we knew, ten, twenty years ago, we're finding out now we're not true.
Cigarettes. How how many people have lung cancer now because we didn't know what cigarettes were doing to us. Doctors smoke cigarettes. Okay? So we learn as we go along, but the best The best teacher is what's going on in our own bodies.
That's absolutely the the truth. Now as far as supplements, that's another that's another big one.
Okay. We can we don't have to get into that if you don't want to,
No. No.
No. It's actually it's actually a very good, uh, it's a very good topic because there are there are two ways of of supplements. And I think you brought up a big a good point. A lot of supplements get put in that same category as the Flintstones, You know? And and the and the other over the counters that are they go in one way and they come right back out, you know, almost Undes un, uh, you know, unabsorbed or anything.
So that's one thing that you're looking at. The other are supplements that are actually made with clean ingredients. They don't have any any fillers that are gonna make it impossible for you to absorb and digest. Um, they're actually made Specifically for a specific reason, your body can absorb them and use them. So that's we that alone is enough to say, okay, we're looking at two different things.
But with even with supplements and, you know, with me and lifestyle health, people ask me, well, if I come off of this medication, am I now gonna be you have to be on a supplement for the rest of my life? And the answer is we wanna get you to as few and Hopefully none as we go along. You know as your body heals and is able to do on its own what it's supposed to do then you come off of the things that are helping you support from being on a medication to being you know medication free. There are some that you may always have to take. So for instance, someone who is of color as I am is all almost always going to be low in vitamin d just because we don't absorb vitamin d as well from the outside.
So we may I may always need to take some supplemental vitamin d. That's, you know, but it's not like I have to take everything all the time. You know, it really depends on what's going on with your body, and that's the way we wanna get people.
Okay. That's a thank you for that. That's a good explanation.
Dr. Lavelle left plastics and went back to school to become a lifestyles doctor at the age of 63.
How did you feel about going back to school at that age?
Oh, I loved it. I'd love learning period. You know? And I look back and I look at my my parents and, uh, they went to college when I was going to college.
Okay. So they're they were in that that yeah. I mean, I was a a regular teenager going, and they were in their, I'm not even sure. Thirties, forties, or whatever, and they were just going back, and they both got their degrees. So in my family, it's always been, You know, it's always been honored to continue your education.
The other thing though was that I just felt so much better when I started making those changes that I knew I had to know more. And even if it initially, when I went, it was for me. You know, it was for me to feel better, for me to understand what was going on. And as I was getting stronger and stronger with myself, I tried it with my sister who also had some health issues got her over a huge hump, um, and that's when I started saying, okay, maybe this is something I can do for others, you know, for for my my wider audience, clientele, patients, or whatever you wanna look at.
That's so cool. I love that about your parents. I've had a few people on here who've gone back to school later in life, and it's something I'm thinking about all the time.
Do it. Do
Yeah. I You also had mentioned to me, that you don't often like to talk about your age, because you find that when applying for grants and business support, you get turned down because of your age, because you're in your sixties.
Right.
If you could say anything you wanted about doing the work that you do at your age. At sixty nine, how would you advocate for yourself and other people doing important work in their sixties, seventies, and older.
Right. I mean, I have more energy, have, I think better mind, you know, mind thoughts and things now than I did ten years ago when I was really struggling with things.
Twenty twelve, twenty, thirty. Yes. About ten years at this point. And so I was I am so much better now. And and looking forward, you know, so I'm looking at myself and how feel right at this moment, I'm gonna be seventy in a few months.
Um, I don't see any major change or deterioration in the next five to ten years. You know, as far as my body, as far as my mind, or or anything that's when it's unless something drastic happens. And so to me, I I understand when maybe when, People are looking for grants and and things of that sort. When they're looking at people, they may look at someone who's thirty five or forty and say, okay. Well, they've got a lot more time to build something or maybe more ability to build something.
However, I also know that some of the, you know, some of the the greatest things in this world, Kentucky fried chicken, all those meetings. You know, we were just talking about that the other day, uh, Moms Mabley, who is an artist. I mean, there are so many people who started in their late sixties, seventies, sometimes even later than that, and have done amazing things. the idea that we get to a certain age and have to stop or have lost it all or or something is just is just boot request.
just to add on to that point, like, I feel like There's room for everybody. And, like, when you combine the different age groups, you know, when we all put our heads together in all different age brackets, that's when amazing things happen. Like, that's what we need. You know? You know?
Can't it can't just be people who are, in their sixties, and it can't just be people who are in their forties or in their twenties. Like, it's got everybody can contribute, and it's so confusing to me why, people, think that you, like, age out of, like, being able to contribute or something.
Exactly. Well, I think even even people themselves believe that. You know? There are people that I speak to who are younger than me. Not only did they look way older, but they speak about themselves as if life is over.
And I'm like, are you kidding me? Um, it's just amazing.
I hear that same thing sometimes. Like, even my mom we'll say, like, oh, I can't do that thing anymore.
She's seventy five. I I don't wanna I won't I don't wanna walk up, you know, those those huge flights of stairs. It's too hard for me, and I'm like, you're you can walk up the flights of stairs. fine. In fact, now we're gonna go walk up the
Levi. Right?
nurse.
But I wonder with like, where do you think that comes from?
I think a lot of it is our society, you know, because if you look at if you look at other societies, especially the blue zones Around the world, if you look at these areas where people living into their nineties and they're still active and still in community, uh, where it's honored, then it's acceptable and it's accepted.
But I think here, we're so used to this disposing of whatever's old, whether it's the old TV or the old phone or the old person, we're used to just kind of disposing of it and going on to the next best nuke thing.
Yeah. That's right.
As we already know, Dr. Lavelle went from plastics to lifestyle medicine, but what does that mean and look like?
Prior to this with Premier Wellness, I worked primarily one on one with people, sometimes with small groups to help them with their energy, their weight, their hormones, but I did that with the same way that I healed myself through changing nutrition to whole foods. That in itself is huge.
To getting people to move more throughout their day and not just going to the gym a couple of times a week, but moving throughout the entire day, to sleeping more, to destressing specifically, to you know, looking at their hormones and see what they were. They had not only their cortisol as we just talked about, their thyroid, but their estrogen and testosterone and progesterone, all of these hormones that make such a big difference in how we feel and go throughout our day. And then the last was looking at mindset and looking at how you feel about yourself and those around you. So that was it working primarily one on one, but I realized that doing one on one, I could only see a certain number of people in a month or so. And I really wanted to impact more, so I started speaking and doing workshops and conferences, and that I just realized that this that I loved it.
Um, and so that's where we're switching. That's why we're calling it now balanced performance because people wanna be able to perform, but but they also wanna have that work life balance. They wanna be able to enjoy their family and their work at both at peak levels. So that's what we do now.
That's awesome.
I love it. And you're based in North Carolina now?
in North Carolina. Yes. Yeah.
so do you still take,
Individual? Of course.
Of Of course. Yeah. And and as we as we speak, we're in the planning stages of what we're calling the balanced performance center. So I want an area where people can come and learn.
Well, how do you cook a meal in in thirty minutes or less that's healthy and doesn't cost a fortune? How do you do these specific workouts? So a place where people can actually come and learn We'll eventually even have an organic farm so people can come and learn and do things of that sort as well. So, yes, it's
so cool. I love that. That's awesome. Okay. So for those of us who don't live in North Carolina and who are interested in, um, this type of healing.
Mhmm.
do we start? What do we do?
Ah, so I always tell people the best thing to do is to start with your own food and mood journal just to figure out what's going on with you. If you if there are things that you want to change going forward.
Start with writing down for, say, about, you know, three to five days, what you're eating, how you feel, um, how are you sleeping, what kind of symptoms you might be having, and you'll start to see patterns of what's going on. Once you've got an idea of that, um, You can either make changes yourself, you know, because we all have that capacity to understand what's going on and make the changes ourselves. But if you need help um, you can do things there are actually if you, can't work with me specifically, there are actually now, uh, sites that are that will help you and guide you through a more functional way of health, and they're online. So that's another opportunity. Trying to think of some of the names.
One is called Gritwell, g r I t hyphen w e l l, GWITWELL is one of them. But they're and what they're doing is trying to make it more accessible to more people. You know because as you were saying you wanted to get some testing done and they're not covered know so um by insurance at least at this point. So just there are some options out there now for people to to do this as well.
Okay. That's really cool.
Yeah. And then the last thing I was gonna say is if you're in a in a working in a company that has a wellness program or even if they don't, ask them to bring things like, you know, the the lifestyle health into the business because it's been shown that companies increase their profits when they take care of their employees.
Right. Of course. I mean, I don't understand why every company doesn't do that. What how are you feeling these days?
I feel wonderful.
I feel wonderful. As a matter of fact, um, we just got a a, scale that has not just your weight, but it's also looking at your fat percentage and lean body mass and everything. And it was better than I thought it would be, um, but it also gave me some goals. So now I have another goal to and that's another thing. A lot of us think that when we're gonna change a life, we have to change everything all at once and it's better in two weeks.
No. No. It's a journey and you get to, you know, you get to a next plateau, you get better, And then you go to the next thing, and you you continuously give yourself new goals and new heights to reach, and that's what keeps you young as well.
I love that.
I agree. I've I'm always like life is a learning journey.
It is.
What's your lifestyle like? Like, your diet, exercise, work play balance.
Well, uh, these days, it is it is also just recently upgraded itself. And I use something in the morning and the evenings called brain tap. Uh, that's a technology that is For those of us who, you know, a lot of us don't meditate because we say we can't keep still or we can't focus or whatever, Well, you there are, of course, many, many ways you can get around that, but this is actually one,
I would say it has meditations, but it is also light and sound activated. So you've got this headset on, and it really just kind of gets everything going. You don't have to think about anything. You just let it happen. So I do that first thing in the morning.
Then I will get up. I have dogs, so obviously, we're gonna be walking first thing in the morning. Um, I have, uh, my daughter and son. My son is a personal trainer. My daughter is a paramedic firefighter.
And so they're both into movement. And so they both will not let mom not move out. So they're they have me working out with weights, So that's the next thing um and then as far as eating, I often will intermittent fast until about noon and I just find that that works better for me. Then I'll have you know I usually tend to have protein, lots of fruits and vegetables, and every once in a while I'll kind of binge on some carbs, some healthier carbs, just because you can't knock them out completely all the time. That's me.
Well, do you do you, like, drink tea or coffee or anything like that?
Sometimes. It'll it it will depend. Um, the best recently I've really just gone to lemon water, um just because it's wintertime we've got our heat on that tends to dehydrate you more and both tea and coffee tend to dehydrate you.
So I've been kind of leaning away from those as much and really just going with the water lemon water for that one, lemon ginger water actually for that morning, and then I'll have lunch.
Okay. Interesting. Because I've been I've I think about that all the time, and I recently have not always, but, like, , sometimes won't eat anything until around eleven or twelve, but I am drinking tea. I do I can't have tea without some food or some milk in it or get a stomachache.
gotcha.
Yeah. Um, so and I'm like, well, does this count? Okay. I'm not really sure.
Well, like you said, there are all different types of fasts. So there are there are, you know, there are liquid fasts, juice fasts, doesn't have to be nothing at all in that that period of
Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I have a lot to
Yeah. There is there's so much. I mean, I with everything that I've learned, there's just so much more out there. And one of the other things that we're about to start with with a lot of our clients is um continuous glucose monitoring and the reason for that is uh a lot of times you were saying with milk you you need needed the milk in your tea and whether or not that was upsetting the fasting balance.
Well, with a continuous glucose monitor, you would know that because it's monitoring what's going on with your glucose all the time. So you're not pricking your finger to check your blood sugar, It's on your arm usually, and it will send to your phone what your blood sugar is. So if you drink that tea, you'll know, okay, what is the response of that t to my blood sugar.
Interesting.
it's amazing. Amazing.
How do you get one of those?
Yes. Well, I'm working with a company now because it used to be very difficult. You used to have to you know, for a while, you had, like, sneak into Canada and get one and got no. But now they, uh, there's a company out that I'm working with, and they will send them to you on a, you know, maybe a monthly basis or whatever. Usually if people are not diabetic they just want to do it and to see what's going on for maybe a month or two, um and then you get the the records automatically, I get to see what's going on, yeah I mean you can share it or not, um, but then we can talk about, okay, this is what's going on with your blood sugar, and this is why these foods are doing it, and This is the choices and changes you can make.
It's just
That's so cool. Okay.
So how much does something like that cost?
They're about one thirty, one forty, um, per se. Yeah. It's not it Like I said, they they they used to be crazy expensive, and said, you had to go out of the country to get them.
But they've now made them, you know, much more affordable.
That's so cool. And you can do that and then if we don't have you as our doctor, we send it to our, uh, our regular doctor?
Or
You can. They I mean, the the company that I work with even has their own you know, they there's a way that you can with their physicians as well to Yeah exactly, yeah. So you're not you're not just out there in the in once you have the data,
with this data?
Uh, that's really cool.
We've already arrived at the part of the interview when I asked the guests to reintroduce themselves, because you are not your successes. I'm sorry to break the news to you, but guess what? You're also not your failures. You're not your hobbies, and you're not your experiences.
You are how you respond to those things. You are what you learn from those things, and you are how you consciously choose to show up next time. When you can detach your identity from things and experiences, you get to be in control of your place in the world.
Oh, Let's see. Um, persistent, determined, kind, open hearted, open minded, and loving.
Awesome. Um, okay. Is there anything else that you wanna share?
Uh I guess the biggest thing that I love to share with everyone is that we are our own best advocate our own best physician and our bodies know exactly what they need. And so when we listen to it, we learn how to listen to our own bodies, We can make amazing changes in our health, our lifestyle, our our life, period. So if if nothing else, Just listen to your body. Let go of whatever isn't serving you, whatever that might be, and then live your own version of thriving.
So
good. Thank you for that. It's so interesting to me because it seems like every time I have I do one of these interviews.
It's like exactly the interview I needed to hear that day.
that amazing?
Yes. It's really incredible. It just every single time. where can people find you?
Well as I mentioned we are in the process of switching over our website. I'm gonna give you the new one. So it is balanced performance dot pro, w w w. Um, and our Facebook literally just changed over yesterday, and I didn't even realize it would change so quickly. So even all of our links are not quite quite right yet, but it's balanced performance.
Um, and on LinkedIn, I'm doctor Susan Lavelle, d r Susan Lavelle on LinkedIn.
Perfect. I will include all of those in the show
Thank
Um, thank you so much for coming and doing this with me, it was really a pleasure to talk to
Oh, thank you.
I hope yeah. And I hope we can stay 📍 in touch somehow.
Sounds like a plan
Not only did I learn a lot from Dr. Lavelle, but now I feel so much more confident about how I'm going to approach my health moving forward. If you want to get in touch with her or find any of the resources she mentioned, check out the show notes. You can also find a link to get in touch with me if you're looking for coaching support. I
Am This Age is produced by Jellyfish Industries. I'm Molly Sider, your host. The music is by Dan 📍 Davin and artwork is by David Harper. We hope you all have a wonderful end of year. Stay curious, stay safe, and keep learning. Catch y'all next time.